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knyaz Sep 14, 2023 @ 5:35pm
Why did Prigozhin heading the PMCs oppose the ministry of defense?
On June 11, 2023, a decree was issued that all volunteers of the Russian Federation taking part in combat operations as part of the "wagner" PMCs unit would have to sign a contract with the ministry of defense. According to them this would give them the legal status of military personnel. But as we know the persons commanding the PMCs did not like it. If we talk about Prigozhin's death, then probably such stories always end like this when you go against the rules established by the state. Prigozhin received money from the state, cover, supplies of military equipment, he himself was awarded the title of hero of Russia but he decided to sell everyone for his own interests, declaring a rebellion that caused reputational damage to the country and the system. There are many conspiracy theories about who could eliminate him, i will not go into details and blame someone because such people have many enemies among state elites and in the business sphere. Summing up we can say that Prigozhin was an ordinary businessman who pursued his personal interests in Africa and did not want to lose such a profitable business as "wagner" PMCs. It ended the way it was supposed to end. l've written everything I think about this story, if I'm wrong somewhere correct me.
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Voss Sep 14, 2023 @ 11:48pm 
There was some missing billions from the US side, after that Prigozhin started to rage out. Even the cia said a few months before that Prigozhin would turn against russia.

But who took him out i wonder if we will ever know, he was a rabbid dog at the end.
And there is only one thing Putin will never forgive, its traitors.

And are you a hero when murdering russian servicemen?

But i can see the love wagner got, they where good. 7 ukrarats for one wagner is pretty bad ass.

Edit: To add is that Prigozhin was an oligark, they see to their own interest first hand.
Last edited by Voss; Sep 14, 2023 @ 11:52pm
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Wald Jr Sep 18, 2023 @ 4:21pm 
Yeah I still wonder too what (really) happend to him...
I think it's like a jigsaw puzzle and you both gave the borders pieces.
The hardest part is to find the middle ones, if they are not missing...

Anyway thank you @⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂｡)⸝ for the summary)
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AH-1 Cobra Sep 19, 2023 @ 2:07am 
Prigozhin collaborated with the CIA and MI6. They no doubt promised to make him President of Russia if he succeeded. He didn't get a martyr's death like he wanted, and died like a rat, to soon be forgotten. This is the best way to handle traitors who have (for lack of a better word) popularity.

Wagner forces on the other hand have fought brilliantly and are patriots as far as I'm concerned, and are probably the best fighting force on the planet at the moment. They sent a lot of ukronazis to go meet their hero Bandera in hell.
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🔥Emperor Pyromancer🔥 Sep 25, 2023 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by Voss:
There was some missing billions from the US side, after that Prigozhin started to rage out. Even the cia said a few months before that Prigozhin would turn against russia.

But who took him out i wonder if we will ever know, he was a rabbid dog at the end.
And there is only one thing Putin will never forgive, its traitors.

And are you a hero when murdering russian servicemen?

But i can see the love wagner got, they where good. 7 ukrarats for one wagner is pretty bad ass.

Edit: To add is that Prigozhin was an oligark, they see to their own interest first hand.

it makes sense but i like and admire Prigozhin as well wagner group.
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🔥Emperor Pyromancer🔥 Sep 25, 2023 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by AH-1 Cobra:
Prigozhin collaborated with the CIA and MI6. They no doubt promised to make him President of Russia if he succeeded. He didn't get a martyr's death like he wanted, and died like a rat, to soon be forgotten. This is the best way to handle traitors who have (for lack of a better word) popularity.

Wagner forces on the other hand have fought brilliantly and are patriots as far as I'm concerned, and are probably the best fighting force on the planet at the moment. They sent a lot of ukronazis to go meet their hero Bandera in hell.

Dont knew about this fact but thank you for telling me that.
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AH-1 Cobra Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by 🔥Emperor Pyromancer🔥:
Originally posted by Voss:
There was some missing billions from the US side, after that Prigozhin started to rage out. Even the cia said a few months before that Prigozhin would turn against russia.

But who took him out i wonder if we will ever know, he was a rabbid dog at the end.
And there is only one thing Putin will never forgive, its traitors.

And are you a hero when murdering russian servicemen?

But i can see the love wagner got, they where good. 7 ukrarats for one wagner is pretty bad ass.

Edit: To add is that Prigozhin was an oligark, they see to their own interest first hand.

it makes sense but i like and admire Prigozhin as well wagner group.

Prigozhin staged a failed coup against Russia, and this can only mean that he was working with the CIA, because they've been trying to do this in Russia for many years now. They previously tried this with Alexei Navalny, which didn't end well for them, so the CIA had to go back to the drawing board. And next up was Prigozhin.

I can tell you that American media was rooting for Prigozhin's "coup", and that should tell everyone right there that it was a CIA op.
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Wald Jr Sep 26, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by AH-1 Cobra:
Originally posted by 🔥Emperor Pyromancer🔥:

it makes sense but i like and admire Prigozhin as well wagner group.

Prigozhin staged a failed coup against Russia, and this can only mean that he was working with the CIA, because they've been trying to do this in Russia for many years now. They previously tried this with Alexei Navalny, which didn't end well for them, so the CIA had to go back to the drawing board. And next up was Prigozhin.

I can tell you that American media was rooting for Prigozhin's "coup", and that should tell everyone right there that it was a CIA op.

Seems very weird to me to attempt to reach and take Moscow without any aviation support...
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AH-1 Cobra Sep 29, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by Wald Jr:
Seems very weird to me to attempt to reach and take Moscow without any aviation support...

Yeah, the soy consuming Mcdonalds Amerimutts in DC didn't really think this through when they gave Prigozhin his orders.
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