Some procedure for appealing bans in communities, which is not dependant on whims of random volunteers
Premise:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3608078528
Steam Support basically left me with thing alone.

No means for contacting... whomever specifically did this to my account.

And all I can get from [email protected] is, quoting,
"content which is against our rules, including sexism, discussion on politics + religion & disrespect towards moderators/developers/staff"
Without quotes or anything.

So I'm basically as clueless on what happened as I was before.
I'm genuinely curious what happened there.
But I can't even check ban notification.
Probably missed it due to having concerns more pressing than virtual police brutality happening in this community.

Suggestion:

If developers/community moderators themselves can't even remember what happened, then give us players some methods to repeal such sanctions (which were an obviouls overkill in the first place).
Last edited by Útost Alronbem; Dec 11 @ 10:25pm
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datCookie Dec 11 @ 10:26pm 
You can appeal the ban in the comment section that comes with it.

Otherwise, you might need to seek alternative platforms, like Discord (if the game in question has one) and politely and privately reach out to an admin there about the issue.
No, I can't.

The restriction notifications expire very quickly. I've managed to miss it somehow.
On top of that, I'm under impression that this feature is either not working or not mandatory to use for community moderators.
Got response there 1 (one) time in a decade - and only after I've reached the project leader themselves on a third party resource accidentally.
And - well, nobody's perfect - I had an opportunity to try to do so way more than once.

Official project's customer support is keeping bleating nonsense.
If official support representatives refuse to step in, then I highly doubt that third-party communication channels would gonna be of any use either.
Not mentioning that if that attempt would gonna result in moderation privileges abuse there too - I'll have one more problem to solve.
That’s just the way some subforms are. Mods will ban you if they wake up on the wrong side of the bed in the morning. I tried appealing a ban in the comment section for the ban once-not only was it not appealed-no one ever answered back. This is one of many reasons why I don’t play DBD or frequent their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ subforum anymore.

But OP, since this is a perma-ban, do reach out to Steam if you believe the ban was for frivolous, non-TOS breaking reasons. They won’t let you back into the TOS forums, but it won’t count as a strike towards limiting your account.
Last edited by KrakenGreywolf; Dec 11 @ 11:11pm
datCookie Dec 11 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by Útost Alronbem:
No, I can't.

The restriction notifications expire very quickly. I've managed to miss it somehow.
On top of that, I'm under impression that this feature is either not working or not mandatory to use for community moderators.
Got response there 1 (one) time in a decade - and only after I've reached the project leader themselves on a third party resource accidentally.
And - well, nobody's perfect - I had an opportunity to try to do so way more than once.

Official project's customer support is keeping bleating nonsense.
If official support representatives refuse to step in, then I highly doubt that third-party communication channels would gonna be of any use either.
Not mentioning that if that attempt would gonna result in moderation privileges abuse there too - I'll have one more problem to solve.

You can go to the forum you're banned in and open the ban notification. I'd also love to see the message you were banned for, considering they banned you for "Islamaphobia".
Damn, since the support staff have pinned all crimes against tolerance and then some on me - I sure am eager to find out what was all that for too.

My last ex was of Jewish origin - and I've treated her like a queen.
I'm still keeping contact with a coworker from my last workplace despite her "bedroom preferences". Lesbian or not, be it frowned upon in our lands or not, she was an excellent teammate, a person from whom I in my early forties can learn alot.
I've read (and understood) Quran so I do have some understanding of their ways and their unique look on what's appropriate or not.

Noone have balls nor even slightest opportunity to try to accuse me of intolerance IRL - and whomever does so online is hiding behind moderation permissions like a cowardly dog, not having enough courage to even pretend that I've actually did something bad (and back their words with at least something remotely better than "trust me bro, you bad").

This permaban situation is outright bewildering to the point that I'm considering checking what legal options I have in our country.
We live in turbulent times - and this crap popping in at least appropriate time and attracting unwanted attention from officials is NOT something I'd like to have anywhere near me.

Unfortunately, the notification on screenshot is not interactable.
And I don't see any other UI elements assotiated with moderation.

And no local person of power (be it IRL or here at Steam) seems to give a damn.
Last edited by Útost Alronbem; Dec 11 @ 11:55pm
Originally posted by KrakenGreywolf:
But OP, since this is a perma-ban, do reach out to Steam if you believe the ban was for frivolous, non-TOS breaking reasons. They won’t let you back into the TOS forums, but it won’t count as a strike towards limiting your account.
They've never mentioned this option despite me stating first and foremost that I'm fully aware of mechanism of ejecting me from WHOLE Steam Community once unknown amount of ongoing bans is accumulated.
Maybe that's some new feature... VERY new, since I've contacted them sometime in September.
Support tickets expire and become inaccessible nowadays too, you know.
Everything for the convenience of end user (not).
Last edited by Útost Alronbem; Dec 11 @ 11:58pm
Originally posted by Útost Alronbem:
They've never mentioned this option despite me stating first and foremost that I'm fully aware of mechanism of ejecting me from WHOLE Steam Community once unknown amount of ongoing bans is accumulated.

It doesn't work that way. You get a community ban if you GET multiple forum bans in a short period of time. After a little bit that won't count towards the automated community ban. Its not a community ban if you HAVE X amount of forum bans.

The forum bans all have to be issued in a short period of time to trigger it. I had a similar nonsense ban in the ship of heroes forums and it does nothing to impact your account - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3573490562

Also you can see the post they banned you for here - https://steamcommunity.com/id/Alronbem/moderatormessages/
Originally posted by Útost Alronbem:
Damn, since the support staff have pinned all crimes against tolerance and then some on me - I sure am eager to find out what was all that for too.

My last ex was of Jewish origin - and I've treated her like a queen.
I'm still keeping contact with a coworker from my last workplace despite her "bedroom preferences". Lesbian or not, be it frowned upon in our lands or not, she was an excellent teammate, a person from whom I in my early forties can learn alot.
I've read (and understood) Quran so I do have some understanding of their ways and their unique look on what's appropriate or not.

Noone have balls nor even slightest opportunity to try to accuse me of intolerance IRL - and whomever does so online is hiding behind moderation permissions like a cowardly dog, not having enough courage to even pretend that I've actually did something bad (and back their words with at least something remotely better than "trust me bro, you bad").

This permaban situation is outright bewildering to the point that I'm considering checking what legal options I have in our country.
We live in turbulent times - and this crap popping in at least appropriate time and attracting unwanted attention from officials is NOT something I'd like to have anywhere near me.

Unfortunately, the notification on screenshot is not interactable.
And I don't see any other UI elements assotiated with moderation.

And no local person of power (be it IRL or here at Steam) seems to give a damn.

You know, not posting this was always an option.
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by Útost Alronbem:
No, I can't.

The restriction notifications expire very quickly. I've managed to miss it somehow.
On top of that, I'm under impression that this feature is either not working or not mandatory to use for community moderators.
Got response there 1 (one) time in a decade - and only after I've reached the project leader themselves on a third party resource accidentally.
And - well, nobody's perfect - I had an opportunity to try to do so way more than once.

Official project's customer support is keeping bleating nonsense.
If official support representatives refuse to step in, then I highly doubt that third-party communication channels would gonna be of any use either.
Not mentioning that if that attempt would gonna result in moderation privileges abuse there too - I'll have one more problem to solve.

You can go to the forum you're banned in and open the ban notification. I'd also love to see the message you were banned for, considering they banned you for "Islamaphobia".
Probably same as it ever was; he was first to stop clapping. Or he forgot remarks you are allowed to make against Christianity are forbidden by the privilege afforded other groups. Either way if it is a game hub ban, the reason hardly matters and is both unnecessary and irrelevant. The only appeals process is to beg the developer. The reason may be fake, slander, or total nonsense. The developer is sovereign
Last edited by William Shakesman; Dec 12 @ 5:56am
Valve is pretty much hands off for game hubs for non Valve games.

If you got banned from a game hub, then Valve is not going to override the devs (or their appointed moderators) to appease you.

Game hubs are allowed to have their own different rules than from the general forums.

There are some rules that are forced, such as no illegal behavior, but beyond that, hubs have different rules.
Originally posted by Brian9824:
It doesn't work that way. You get a community ban if you GET multiple forum bans in a short period of time. After a little bit that won't count towards the automated community ban. Its not a community ban if you HAVE X amount of forum bans.
Well, I'm citing how Steam Support explained things to me.
Rules of this game are not formalized anywhere and change without notice.
Originally posted by Brian9824:
Also you can see the post they banned you for here - https://steamcommunity.com/id/Alronbem/moderatormessages/
Now, THAT's something actually useful! I'm keeping forgetting that Steam have a ton of auxiliary pages which are not linked to from anywhere.
Thank you!
It's odd at the very least to get this link from fellow player rather than from whichever legal entities I've reached to within last 30 days.

Fairness for fairness.
Lo and behold,
Islamophobia, Town of Salem Moderation edition!
Also, "content which is against our rules, including sexism, discussion on politics + religion & disrespect towards moderators/developers/staff", tightly packed into a single post.
So hide your little angels before opening and reading:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3622413568
Hmmmmmmm, now I remember. Apparently, I've rolled critical success on "Proficiency: English" check. I'm not as eloquent in English nowadays.
Still, among all listed deadly sins of digital bandidos, Islamophobia is the least plausible here.
Welp, one more chunk of info to pass to Роскомнадзор. If, once in a blue moon, they would give a damn about it. Previous inquiry remains unanswered, for now.

Bonus for attentive readers, "appeal in ban message comments, it always works".
Apparently, does... unless it doesn't:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3622415353
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
The only appeals process is to beg
Our ancestors fought and died so we could have at least some rights.
A right to beg is not among these.
Last edited by Útost Alronbem; Dec 12 @ 7:01am
If the devs don't leave you any avenue to appeal. Then, just move on.
You can always appeal to the dev/pubs directly by submitting an email to them.
Though I suspect you're not quite the innocent party here m8.
Last edited by Start_Running; Dec 12 @ 7:07am
Satoru Dec 12 @ 7:24am 
Its always fun when people complain about something, then provide 'proof' that, they were absolutely wrong and that their ban was valid

Its also hilarious that you responded to the ban notification in such a toxic disgusting way, that its little wonder the moderators just clicked "Ignore Discussion" and didn't even bother replying to that.
Last edited by Satoru; Dec 12 @ 7:34am
Satoru Dec 12 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:

You know, not posting this was always an option.

Remember bigots always use the defense "I have a friend who is X" which of course immediately makes litearlly the litany of nonsensical bigotry to come 'ok' for some inexplicable reason
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