i wont refund as ive tried for 6 hours to get into the game and i know eventually ill rebuy it once its developed (plus the chance id get refunded because im over 2 hours is basically 1% lol) but i just had to giver eu5 a negative review purely because of the ui. there are buttons that are just non existant and or hidden. i really wanna love it but i dont instead i thought i put eu4 down for good but im going back to it tonight starting a english run probably gonna spice it up with some new mods or somthing.

Originally posted by Dakota~:

i wont refund as ive tried for 6 hours to get into the game and i know eventually ill rebuy it once its developed (plus the chance id get refunded because im over 2 hours is basically 1% lol) but i just had to giver eu5 a negative review purely because of the ui. there are buttons that are just non existant and or hidden. i really wanna love it but i dont instead i thought i put eu4 down for good but im going back to it tonight starting a english run probably gonna spice it up with some new mods or somthing.

I refunded simply cus I did not feel like it were worth full price, the hrs I put in were no fun at all and felt like I learned nothing just with how bad the UI is, will buy it again later when its on a discount and have learned more about the game through videos, who knows maybe they have somewhat fixed the UI by then. :)

Not even interested in buying it
This is just another victoria 3 situation

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

Originally posted by Dakota~:

i wont refund as ive tried for 6 hours to get into the game and i know eventually ill rebuy it once its developed (plus the chance id get refunded because im over 2 hours is basically 1% lol) but i just had to giver eu5 a negative review purely because of the ui. there are buttons that are just non existant and or hidden. i really wanna love it but i dont instead i thought i put eu4 down for good but im going back to it tonight starting a english run probably gonna spice it up with some new mods or somthing.

I refunded simply cus I did not feel like it were worth full price, the hrs I put in were no fun at all and felt like I learned nothing just with how bad the UI is, will buy it again later when its on a discount and have learned more about the game through videos, who knows maybe they have somewhat fixed the UI by then. :)

honestly would refund at this point aswell but im over the hour limit and the game isnt unplayable for me so id have a hard time refunding but who knows i might get hooked in a few months when mods come out to adress the ui flaws lol

Originally posted by Dakota~:

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

I refunded simply cus I did not feel like it were worth full price, the hrs I put in were no fun at all and felt like I learned nothing just with how bad the UI is, will buy it again later when its on a discount and have learned more about the game through videos, who knows maybe they have somewhat fixed the UI by then. :)

honestly would refund at this point aswell but im over the hour limit and the game isnt unplayable for me so id have a hard time refunding but who knows i might get hooked in a few months when mods come out to adress the ui flaws lol

I were on 3 hr couple min so also were over the refund time(its still 2 hrs right) still worked to get it refunded tho.

I had no intention on picking five up any time soon. I didn't even really pay attention to the development and the dev diaries. But then I saw it on Steam and bought it. I literally couldn't resist. What if I like it?!

I played for 45 minutes just looking at the UI and never advanced one day.

No intention now to refund. Don't know if I'll like it, don't know if it is good. But it's a new thing to learn and master and that's reason enough right there.

Originally posted by dbond1:

I had no intention on picking five up any time soon. I didn't even really pay attention to the development and the dev diaries. But then I saw it on Steam and bought it. I literally couldn't resist. What if I like it?!

I played for 45 minutes just looking at the UI and never advanced one day.

No intention now to refund. Don't know if I'll like it, don't know if it is good. But it's a new thing to learn and master and that's reason enough right there.

I think as long as its entertaining that's reason enough. If it takes you away from boring real life for a few hours that's a reason right there. Anything new is going to take time to learn especially a new Paradox game. My concern though is will it be fun once you've learned it? I didnt find CK2 or 3, or HoI4 or EU4 and certainly not Vic 3 that much fun after learning them. Maybe this one will be different, but somehow I think not.

I just want to play a historical game without loads of really annoying mechanics that get in the way. I tell you Age of History 3 was almost all I needed .....

Originally posted by Nats:

I just want to play a historical game without loads of really annoying mechanics that get in the way. I tell you Age of History 3 was almost all I needed .....

And that's why I stick with the original Age of Empires, Civilisation 2, and Alpha Centauri.

After 1.3 hours of checking every tab and the messages, I formed some alliances, build a fishery, then was told to repair ships by importing resources that are required, then I went to recruit armies but they require a building to be build first for you to station them in. In the end i don't think eu5 is more complicated, just tedious. The game speed is too slow especially with the added 100 years of time. As someone who only has 1600 hours in eu4 I feel like its a slap in the face from paradox. I am about to start a new run in eu4 as a random country and know I will have a blast. And yes, I did refund eu5, maybe after it goes on sale and had a few updates and dlc's it might be fun but as of now i can't see myself enjoying it.

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

Really did not like the UI, no idea where to look for what etc, will probably buy it once it gets a decent discount & I have watched more gameplay videos & guides, cus I really WANT to like the new installment.

Yup. Horrid UI and AI and instead of making a better version of EU4 without mana they decided to mash all of thr “best bits” of paradox titles together for some reason and it’s utterly chit. And you it’s so convoluted you have to hoop jump for 200 years to do anything. It’s not that I don’t understand WHAT to do, it’s just DOING it is boring, the series I meant to be a nation and war simulator NOT Victoria 3 in drag. EU4 with mods remains unbeaten. Eu5 may be a good game in a few months but it’s NOT an EU game. Imo.

I did refund it. I'll take another look in a couple years I guess.

Originally posted by RCMidas:

Originally posted by Nats:

I just want to play a historical game without loads of really annoying mechanics that get in the way. I tell you Age of History 3 was almost all I needed .....

And that's why I stick with the original Age of Empires, Civilisation 2, and Alpha Centauri.

Alpha Centauri remains the best land-based 4X game ever IMO. The later Civ titles and all the pretenders just don't come close...

As for V, if they add in custom nations for free I might sink some more time into it but 5 hrs in and still doing tutorial stuff to find my way around the UI isn't great. Add-in I hate the start date and it feels waaaaaaay too much like Vic 3 plus a bad dynasty simulator and yeah, to the shelf...

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

Really did not like the UI, no idea where to look for what etc, will probably buy it once it gets a decent discount & I have watched more gameplay videos & guides, cus I really WANT to like the new installment.

yesterday im almost refund it after all my campaign ended very badly , can u imagine small state ottoman with only 2 major city have better economic than france with a lot of vassal state like where the hell is logic coming from

Originally posted by CasperTheGhost:

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

Really did not like the UI, no idea where to look for what etc, will probably buy it once it gets a decent discount & I have watched more gameplay videos & guides, cus I really WANT to like the new installment.

yesterday im almost refund it after all my campaign ended very badly , can u imagine small state ottoman with only 2 major city have better economic than france with a lot of vassal state like where the hell is logic coming from

France is a decentralized, sprawling, disloyal, mess which is why England felt safe enough to kick off the 100 yr war. Also, a number of things scale with the size of the nation, most of them are bad such as stability cost, court cost, and so on while the beneficial stuff like taxes are punished by low control.

I felt the same way but remembered how long it took me to properly learn and understand eu4 when i first started playing it, this game is sooooo much more complicated so will likely take even more time