It's not the tank that is OP, but the playerbase that is weak. They just can't cooperate and exploit its weaknesses: easily strafed, rocketed and bombed by air, gets one-tapped by most HE shells landing anywhere on the hull, has no turret, only 7 shots in the 'drum', can't pen many tanks frontally without precise aiming (T-34, Shermans) or entirely (KVs).

Don´t see them to often around as of late.
Yes, they are annoying and outright dangerous in experienced hands but are also extremly squishy against CAS, HE, HEAT and Autocannons.

They are the textbook definition of a glasscannon.

Well i have it since day 1 and i can say i easily penetrate every t-34 kv and sherman, i use it on my 6.7 lineup and lastly killed 1 is-2 and 1 is-3 in the same match, it is not op at all i find it funny , some people get frustrated because of its autoloader but it is not too many rounds after facing 4 tanks its empty and takes time to reload again
It is really weak in terms of armor, almost every bomb in the game can kill it or high explosive shells.

Originally posted by Chaoslord 87:

Don´t see them to often around as of late.

I don't think it can be obtained anymore.

Originally posted by Kiktor Chevalier:

It's not the tank that is OP, but the playerbase that is weak. They just can't cooperate and exploit its weaknesses: easily strafed, rocketed and bombed by air, gets one-tapped by most HE shells landing anywhere on the hull, has no turret, only 7 shots in the 'drum', can't pen many tanks frontally without precise aiming (T-34, Shermans) or entirely (KVs).

Perhaps I should say the gun is OP. I agree that even OP vehicles can be taken down with a bit of knowledge and skill which is the point I was making with this post. I just mentioned the SAV as clickbait.

HE shells, it is open top, it will overpressure.

Always take 3-5 HE shells

Originally posted by Kiktor Chevalier:

It's not the tank that is OP, but the playerbase that is weak. They just can't cooperate and exploit its weaknesses: easily strafed, rocketed and bombed by air, gets one-tapped by most HE shells landing anywhere on the hull, has no turret, only 7 shots in the 'drum', can't pen many tanks frontally without precise aiming (T-34, Shermans) or entirely (KVs).

thing is it doesn't need APHE shells, the HE shells have enough explosive fillers to overpressure most tanks at its br and even above or lower. yes it's lighlty armored but unless you see it first before it sees you, 90% of the times you're gonna get evaporated by 3 or 4 120mm HE shells. you only have a chance if you're using a heavy tank but even then since this is warthunder you could probably get overpressured in that too for some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason.

also the main thing everyone here seems to forget is that while most people bring 1 or 2 HE shells in their loadout they almost never have them loaded in the barrel unless they were already fighting an open top. so that means you have to:

1)fire first with whatever shell you have loaded and hope it disables the gunner or breach/barrel
2)load the HE shell and fire it.

and this is all possible if you're the one to engage first. if they do, you'll likely die.

also it's again one of those cases where people use this "just use a plane" excuse like with many other rat tanks (fox, m18, wiesel (which is techically an AA too) etc. etc.) to say that they're not hard to deal with. and i always wonder, if they're not hard to deal with you shouldn't need to spawn a plane to deal with them right? so why even use it as an excuse when trying to prove your point that a vehicle is weak?

anyway yeah take the fact that at low tier except for a few seal clubbing level 100s there's mostly newer players, who have no clue what they're facing, and you can understand why it's regarded as OP.

HE shells if you can see the top or a portion of a open top vehicle depending on the shell filler it can one tap them.

Originally posted by Kiktor Chevalier:

It's not the tank that is OP, but the playerbase that is weak. They just can't cooperate and exploit its weaknesses: easily strafed, rocketed and bombed by air, gets one-tapped by most HE shells landing anywhere on the hull, has no turret, only 7 shots in the 'drum', can't pen many tanks frontally without precise aiming (T-34, Shermans) or entirely (KVs).

The SAV absolutely can pen KV tanks from the front.

The SAV simply needs to bump up to 4.7. It’s not a 3.7 vehicle by any means.

It's a glass cannon and disintegrates if you fart in its general direction.

What makes it "strong" is players who sit still in awe and try to attack it from the front - just do circles around it and the autoloader is worth nothing.

Originally posted by Hotschi48:

It's a glass cannon and disintegrates if you fart in its general direction.

What makes it "strong" is players who sit still in awe and try to attack it from the front - just do circles around it and the autoloader is worth nothing.

the main selling point of that thing is the autoloader lol. also if i remember correctly it does turn pretty fast on the spot so unless you have a very fast tank it's literally useless to run around it, you'll just expose your side to it and become 10x easier to overpressure or pen.

a lot of people here don't know how to deal with it...

it's far from OP, but from my experience, SAV players just know to use their vehicle better than others. I rarely get attacked from the front by SAV players... It's an ambush tank, and ideally you want to attack from the sides. The penetration isn't that great, you can't reliably attack from the front in uptiers, and some vehicles will take half of your autoloader to disable them if you don't aim properly. Properly used it can be quite good, but that's true for a lot of vehicles.

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

The SAV simply needs to bump up to 4.7. It’s not a 3.7 vehicle by any means.

I'm glad you're not in control of the BR ratings, because you have no idea

Originally posted by Dangerfield:

If you only use the free tanks, constantly competing with premium players can seem terribly frustrating. If you stick with it and do not give up, you will become a better player due to the intense challenge.

If you've ever come against a SAV 20.12.48 tho, that one is way too OP. Yet it can still be killed with free tanks.

See you out there in the low tier Arcade Ground Battles o/
Don_Cornelius

wow spoken like a true developer from gaijin ...... why pay to play or win when you guys dont remove the blatant hackers ??????

Originally posted by MadcapMagician-ll-:

wow spoken like a true developer from gaijin ...... why pay to play or win when you guys dont remove the blatant hackers ??????

yeah i don't really see the point of the original post tbh but oh well, it reads like one of those extremely stupid quotes from the art of war, like "if your troops are starving, feed them" or "if the enemy is winning, try not losing"

Originally posted by DatWeirdBoii:

Originally posted by MadcapMagician-ll-:

wow spoken like a true developer from gaijin ...... why pay to play or win when you guys dont remove the blatant hackers ??????

yeah i don't really see the point of the original post tbh but oh well, it reads like one of those extremely stupid quotes from the art of war, like "if your troops are starving, feed them" or "if the enemy is winning, try not losing"

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